Site default technical skill level
kris
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+

Where can I find information about the Site default technical skill level

As an admin I would like to know the consequence.
Marshall Sutherland
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
While looking at the log for the previous post, I noticed some references to a channel from the previous incarnation of this site, red.farthinghalearms.com. Could references to this long-deleted channel (which doesn't show up in my connections list) have survived when I shut down red, lived for few months on another site and then cloned myself back to my new site, hub?


2017-09-18 22:40:05:LOG_DEBUG::Finger.php:49:run: using xchan_addr: eatrealfood@red.farthinghalearms.com
2017-09-18 22:40:05:LOG_INFO::Finger.php:76:run: zot_finger: eatrealfood at https://red.farthinghalearms.com
2017-09-18 22:40:05:LOG_INFO::network.php:176:z_fetch_url: z_fetch_url: error: https://red.farthinghalearms.com/.well-known/zot-info?f=&address=eatrealfood&token=08744973a808889472b233684a3f5569c130f7532a3a1f7dc179f8b9f28476de: Could not resolve host: red.farthinghalearms.com
Marshall Sutherland
  
Here is what I found... 9 xchan rows with xchan_urls pointing to the old red site. They all have xchan_hidden and xchan_deleted both set to 1.

Thinking back, those accounts/channels probably still existed when I shut down the site and I probably still had connections to them, so it makes sense that they would carry on, if nothing cleans them up. The channel referenced in the OP was a channel of mine, so I guess it makes sense that I'm not seeing it here. I'm not really sure where I might find it, but don't know that it is really all that important.
Mike Macgirvin
  
You can delete those since they are well and truly dead.
Marshall Sutherland
  
done
Marshall Sutherland
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
I've been collecting up links which don't display for a few weeks now. By "don't display", I mean I get the header bar and nothing else. I have 20 of them now. I just clicked on them all and they still do the same almost nothing. I went and looked at the logs and saw nothing. Most, but not all, of these were messages from RSS feeds sources.

So, first, I am curious if other people see the same nothingness I see (the bulk should be public messages, since most were from RSS feeds). If someone can see why, that would be a bonus!

(I could have sworn there was a bbcode to display this in a left-right scrolling box, but I can't seem to find it now)

https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVha3Byb3NwZXJpdHkuY29tL2RhaWx5ZGlnZXN0LzExMDU2NC9kYWlseS1kaWdlc3QtODMwLXN0dWRlbnQtbG9hbi1iYWxhbmNlcy1qdW1wLTE1MC1idWJibGUtY2hpbmElRTIlODAlOTlzLWRlYnQtbWFya2V0
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTAxMjIyMg
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.dGFnOnF1aXR0ZXIubm8sMjAxNy0wOC0zMDpmYXZlOjE5MjYxOm5vdGU6NDgyMTAxMToyMDE3LTA4LTMwVDIyOjMzOjQyKzAyOjAw
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwMTQ1OQ?f=&jsdisabled=0
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.dGFnOnNvY2lhbC5mcmVlZG9tYm9uZS5uZXQsMjAxNy0wOS0wMTpmYXZlOjE6Y29tbWVudDozMTA5ODc6MjAxNy0wOS0wMVQxNjozNjowMCswMTowMA
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVha3Byb3NwZXJpdHkuY29tL2RhaWx5ZGlnZXN0LzExMDYxOC9kYWlseS1kaWdlc3QtOTItYW1lcmljYXMtb3Zlcmxvb2tlZC1hZGRpY3Rpb24tY3Jpc2lzLWhhcnZleSVFMiU4MCU5OXMtcHVibGljLWhlYWx0aC1uaWdodA
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTAxNTYyMw
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwNzI5Mw
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwMTUwNQ
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVha3Byb3NwZXJpdHkuY29tL2RhaWx5ZGlnZXN0LzExMDcxOS9kYWlseS1kaWdlc3QtOTctbWFya2V0cy0lRTIlODAlOTgtYmVlbi1nb2luZy10b28tbG9uZyVFMiU4MCU5OS10aG91c2FuZHMtY2F0dGxlLXJpc2stYWZ0ZXItaGFydmV5
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwNzM3OQ
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVha3Byb3NwZXJpdHkuY29tL2Jsb2cvMTEwNzQ3L3dobyVFMiU4MCU5OXMtZ29pbmctZWF0LWxvc3Nlcw
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTAxODIzNg
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVha3Byb3NwZXJpdHkuY29tL2RhaWx5ZGlnZXN0LzExMDc2OC9kYWlseS1kaWdlc3QtOTktb3BlYy1mYWlscy1jdXQtb2lsLWV4cG9ydHMtaXJtYSVFMiU4MCU5OXMtYXBwcm9hY2gtc2hpZnRzLWd1bGYtY29hc3Q
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwNzMxMA
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwMTQyMQ
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwNzYwNQ
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTEwMTQ5Mw
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVha3Byb3NwZXJpdHkuY29tL2RhaWx5ZGlnZXN0LzExMDg4OC9kYWlseS1kaWdlc3QtOTE2LWhvdy1yaWNoLWNoaW5lc2UtdXNlLXZpc2EtZml4ZXJzLW1vdmUtdXMtcGxhc3RpY3Mtd29uJUUyJTgwJTk5dC1zYXZlLW9pbA
https://hub.farthinghalearms.com/display/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGlldGRvY3Rvci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1rZF9yZWNpcGUmYW1wO3A9MTE5OTM1MQ
Mike Macgirvin
  
We did a lot of work on mod_display 2-3 weeks ago, most of it related to situations just like this - empty pages for content that we know exists and is publicly viewable. You should see a noticeable improvement in the next release.
Marshall Sutherland
  
I'll try these links again after the release and let you know how they do
Calendar posts not being deleted at connection streams / feature: do not create event post, please ...

tobias
 
@Hubzilla Support Forum+

Hello,
I have got an issue with the posts which are automatically created when creating an event entry.
  • When I delete automatically created post in my own channel home it is not deleted for all the other accounts, as are ordinary posts. Shall I file a bug?
  • Feature: There once was a feature where I could chose to create a post related to the event. Is this maybe still dormant somewhere and could be brought back? This would be sooo much appreciated.


Is this expected behavior or is there a  bug I should file?

On event creation (note: I obscured the logfile a bit) I see that the message is being created.


2017-09-18 18:32:01:LOG_INFO:u9eccaila1k5ic94mgu8tqbev2:items.php:1603:item_store: revision: 0
2017-09-18 18:32:01:LOG_INFO:u9eccaila1k5ic94mgu8tqbev2:items.php:1835:item_store: item_store: created item 303039
2017-09-18 18:32:01:LOG_INFO:u9eccaila1k5ic94mgu8tqbev2:items.php:2551:tag_deliver: tag_deliver: no mention for to and no union.
2017-09-18 18:32:01:LOG_INFO:u9eccaila1k5ic94mgu8tqbev2:zot.php:2948:build_sync_packet: build_sync_packet
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:82:run: notifier: invoked: Array
(
    [0] => Notifier
    [1] => event
    [2] => 303039
)

2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:365:run: notifier: normal distribution
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:474:run: notifier: recipients (may be delivered to more if public): Array
(
(...)
    [10] => admin@myhuburl.net (unique-id)
    (...)
)

2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_DEBUG::Notifier.php:535:run: notifier: will notify/deliver to these hubs: Array
(
    [0] => myhuburl.net
)

2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:638:run: notifier: basic loop complete.
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:642:run: notifer: complete.
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::Deliver.php:35:run: deliver: local delivery
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::zot.php:544:zot_gethub: zot_gethub: found
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::zot.php:1151:zot_import: specific recipients
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::zot.php:3627:import_author_zot: in cache
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::items.php:1603:item_store: revision: 0
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::items.php:1835:item_store: item_store: created item 303040
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::items.php:2551:tag_deliver: tag_deliver: no mention for Service Announcement and no union.
2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::items.php:1603:item_store: revision: 0
(....)

2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::zot.php:1834:process_delivery: process_delivery: local results: Array
(
    [site] => https://myhuburl.net
    [0] => Array
        (
            [location] => https://myhuburl.net
            [sender] => sender-unique-id
            [recipient] => unique-id Service Announcement <admin@myhuburl.net>
            [message_id] => message-id@myhuburl.net
            [status] => posted
            [date] => 2017-09-18 18:32:02
        )

    (...)
        )

)



On event deletion in my own channel home:

Note: Could this notifier: target item not published, so not forwardable indicate the bug? The posts are not connected.
From my reading this might also correspond to 2017-09-18 18:32:02:LOG_INFO::items.php:2551:tag_deliver: tag_deliver: no mention for Service Announcement and no union.


2017-09-18 18:59:11:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:82:run: notifier: invoked: Array
(
    [0] => Notifier
    [1] => drop
    [2] => 303039
)

2017-09-18 18:59:11:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:260:run: notifier: target item ITEM_DELETED
2017-09-18 18:59:11:LOG_INFO::Notifier.php:274:run: notifier: target item not published, so not forwardable



When deleting an ordinary post I see that the message does get deleted.

[10] => Array
        (
            [location] => https://myhub.net
            [sender] => sender-id
            [recipient] => receipient-id account  <account@myhub.net>
            [message_id] => 6dc412c1dd69c3f20497f4a377db88d1c6bb50fcb1ddb5e3e5aca09a8f19205e@family.tobea.net
            [status] => deleted
            [date] => 2017-09-18 19:05:10
        )
tobias
 
I forgot to mention: Version 2.6.3 - 1193 right now.
Hubzilla-2.6.3 Bugfix Release

Mario Vavti
  
Fixes
  • Fix anonymous comments/likes on photos - this is not yet implemented
  • Fix favicon not displayed on certain pages
  • Fix hubzilla logo icon for favicon and email notifications
  • Fix an issue with displaying selected theme in settings/display
  • [SECURITY] Restrict the input characters we accept in token verification strings to hex digits
  • Remove hubzilla.nl from fallback directory servers

Please update both core and addons ASAP!

@Hubzilla Announcements+ @Hubzilla Support Forum+
kris
  
anonymous comments ?? does that exist ?
Mario Vavti
  
anonymous comments ?? does that exist ?

Yes
Sync contacts and calendar events

KompiuteriŇ≥ Meistras +37060040020
 
how to sync calendar events from android via davdroid to redmatrix.us and contacts
Alex
 Felucia 
DAVdroid works fine
Einer von Vielen
  last edited: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:43:28 +0200  
/cdav/calendars/

name=
pass="as your login pass"

/upate/
or... /cdav/calendars/ I am not sure.
Einer von Vielen
  
@Andrew Manning @Mario Vavti  Could not find the manual for sync with caldav anymore in the help //help/member/member_guide
groovehunter
 
Where can I generate an api key for my hub please?
Mike Macgirvin
  
What is it you're trying to accomplish?
groovehunter
  
I want to post content from the mailing list I mentioned before.
Mike Macgirvin
  
We did this several years ago, but the mail access libraries suck up huge amounts of memory processing large mailboxes - and everybody has large mailboxes. Memory use is traditionally a problem in PHP. So python would be a good choice for reading the mailbox (I might suggest using 'imapclient').
groovehunter
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+ Can I post via email to hubzilla? I would like to add a channel where daily emails of a #yahoogroup are forwarded to. So I just need to subscribe to the group with that email. #email2hubzilla
groovehunter
  
Great, It works :) Now i changed my stream to "new posts" and there was a post from one of these feeds, two days old. superb!
groovehunter
  last edited: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:13:10 +0200  
I was wrong, the posts I saw are from the one feed I added directly to my personal channel as connection...

augsburg_alternativ@hub.kosmospora.de is the channel

What I tried: clicking recent activity on all the connections; resubmitted the post composition settings. Resubmitted some sources.
groovehunter
  
Still no luck. I give it up for now. Going for potato harvesting now...
Additional features

Thorsten
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
Additional features have to be activated by the hub admin. But what does the locking option mean? I.e. you can activate "Advanced Profiles" and below that "Lock feature Advanced Profiles".
phellmes
  
Yes, the default applies on channel creation.

To put it short: Enabling/disabling a feature sets it's initial status whenever a new channel is created. Locking/unlocking a feature sets if a channel owner can see it in the settings and modify its status.
Thorsten
  
Thanks. :-)
Mike Macgirvin
  
Just adding - some features (for instance 'Privacy Groups') are enabled/activated by default. The site admin can choose to disable these by default. There aren't many of these but they exist.
giac hellvecio
  
just saw in the vilarejo hub that I can see /pubstream but the 'discover' tab  disappeared ... is this normal ?
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
giac hellvecio
  last edited: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:23:04 +0200  
It's hidden in /apps shortly.


not, what i see is that disappeared totally...maybe replaced with the "app" pubstream.-public steam ?
Mike Macgirvin
  
commit 2d5768b71c0fa588524849749cfb0b6ffe6300b7
Author: git-marijus <mario@mariovavti.com>
Date:   Thu Aug 24 21:47:01 2017 +0200

    ditch discover tab in favour of the public stream app
giac hellvecio
  
:like
kris
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+

Hello forum. Hubzilla is full of feature. they have a lot but when you don't need it you don't care. Now I have a need. I am sure hubzilla is able to do it.

I want to share with some people who do not have account special content. For exemple I put holiday photo. I don't want that the whole planet know that I was on vacation so only people who have the link would be able to see.

How should I process. I once tryed token or strange things like that but at that time I didnt have any needs. What is the step by step how to.

I just want a link I will send to my contact. Just like nextcloud is able to do in one click. Maybe we can do it in 2 or 3 clicks but it should works the same way.
Mike Macgirvin
  
I create a token --> create a post with special permission
--> then I go to token page again to check the link but probably it give each time a new password.

We must have the possibility to have new url with password for old token.  For each token we should have the information  : access url and expiration date. Cause if you don't write the link you loose it.


Click the token name of the token you want the information for from the list of tokens you've created at the bottom of the page.

By default we set the landing page up to create a new token by only supplying a name and click the button. We'll choose a short "usually pronounceable" word for a password - though you can over-ride this. Select any existing token to examine it or change it or delete it. I don't know how to make this any easier without actually reading your mind.
kris
  
Thank you I will check again how to get the URK of and old token that I created already.


For me token is like group but for people who does not have hubzilla account.  I hope I am not wrong if I use like this. I think it will be easier for adoption with a simple link that asking people to create account.
kris
  
I am really a slow learner !!! I just discover that if we clic on an old talken we can see the password dans date etc.. and change it.

I played a little with it. It works nicely. I also created a new profile for 'visitor' but that part did not work my special profile for visitors was not displayed but only the default profile.

Token is kind of invitation for people who are not registered yet.
A few hints before starting my Hubzilla setup

Christophe S. (On Hubz)
  last edited: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 18:19:54 +0200  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
Hi,


After a long period in the background (and a network trip on Mastodon), I am back for my Hubzilla setup.

I tried to find my earliest post (back to last december 2016), I don't know if there are facilities to help that...

This set aside, the situation today is I have a new server, running Debian 9 and this time my PHP-FPM configuration is all set.
I was able to make a call to phpcurl on the same domain and get the content in my page. That was my problem at that time.
I'll never know what was in cause, but I am ready to move forward (within a few weeks, but I will prepare my mind already :).

Before, I would like a few advices.

1) I read somewhere there was something important to backup in the database, so that we never lose the private key, which would prevent to regain access to our profile and, if I understood, also our handle 'user@hubzilla.website.tld'.

Is it still true ? What content must really be taken care of ?
And how can it be safely (more than securely) stored for long term ?

2) Is there a procedure to follow to create a new primary handle and then mirror it on this one, thanks to @Seth Martin providing LastAuth ?

3) (Less important, and more related to OpenID stuff) About the use as OpenID, where is it ? Is it the profile page that acts as OpenID ?
And would it be possible to use redirection on the server to provide this OpenID ?
E.g. if OpenID is at "hubzilla.website.tld/profile/me" can I create a redirect from "website.tld/openid" to this URL and expect it to work when providing the link for granting OpenID accesses ?

Is still OpenID adviced, if not popular ?


Thank you for your replies to come, I am eager to finally enter the Hub/Grid/Red for good :)
kris
  
good news you will run a hub :)
Mike Macgirvin
  
The openid service has become a plugin and is unmaintained, but probably still works. It basically puts an openid server at https://gravizot.de/oid/{username} which you can use from any openid enabled service and I believe you can delegate that to other openid URLs. The world has moved on from openid and there has been very little interest in the feature (you're the first person to mention it in over a year); so if you want to see any enhancements it would be kind of up to you to make them happen.
Andrew Manning
  
The world has moved on from openid

Yeah, now any site that would have supported openid authentication just uses your centralized, proprietary GitHub account in addition to Facebook and Google authentication options :-/
Manuel
 Zotlandia last edited: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:30:54 +0200  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+ Error in my Hubzilla > WordPress plugin. The delivery report says:
wordpress connection or authentication failure 2017-09-10 07:44:17
My URL API is the same as always https://clarosenelbosque.com/xmlrpc.php User/Password are OK.
Any idea?
@Mike Macgirvin  Mike, do you think there is a problem with the plugin, or do you think the problem is in a WordPress update?
Mike Macgirvin
  
Thanks @Waitman Gobble the plugin has been updated accordingly.
Waitman Gobble
  
hope it helps
Mike Macgirvin
  
Don't know if it will fix @Manuel 's issue but I converted my wordpress site to https and can still post to it.
Jean-Philippe Baril
  last edited: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:20:56 +0200  
@Hubzilla Support Forum
Hi,
I'm thinking about installing my own hub on my server.
As everything else on that server is running in Docker I would like to use Hubzilla in a Docker container as well. Yet, I'm fairly new to Docker.
I searched (on Google and on Hubzilla itself) and only found this https://hub.docker.com/r/silviof/hubzilla-docker/
If i change the Hubzilla version number to 2.6 (https://hub.docker.com/r/silviof/hubzilla-docker/~/dockerfile/) will I be able to use that Docker file?

Thank you
Alexandre Hannud Abdo
  
Docker has limitations : most notably only one process is allowed to run in each container.


In what sense? I believe I have both ran parallel containers from the same image, and launched parallel processes within the same container.
Beni Grind
  
I think it's only discouraged to run multiple processes in one container, but it work. At least it did when I last checked. In the beginning docker was only a wrapper around lxc anyway, much like lxd.
Raymond Monret
  last edited: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:39:07 +0200  
I haven't tried to run multiple processes within a docker container since it is not recommanded. I personally find it easier to use VM-like environments, but I am no professionnal admin or even advanced so it might be related ūüôĄ


https://devops.stackexchange.com/questions/447/why-it-is-recommended-to-run-only-one-process-in-a-container

sync cloud/file storage

It's me
  
@Hubzilla Development+ @Hubzilla Support Forum+ is there a way to sync cloud/file storage between clones?
Hubzilla @ sasiflo
  
They are syncing already.
Andrew Manning
  
https://hub.libranet.de/channel/emir/&f=&mid=1aea512c740b0728dd3af16ab523b559f205371f0b9711fd6a60b7147560ccc4@hub.libranet.de?f=&jsdisabled=0

2.6 should sync newly created files to clones just fine. In order to sync the older ones you'll need to use a plugin.

Originally there were two plugins called redfiles and redphotos for cloning/pulling files from Redmatrix into Hubzilla. I don't know the current state of the plugins; you should now be able to do everything with just 'redfiles' but it may require a bit of additional work because the API has changed slightly. You're welcome to have a look.
It's me
  
ah ok, thanks
Documentation privacy policy

Thorsten
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
Some questions about the privacy policy in this thread:

The actual privacy policy (help/about/project) contains the following definition:
**Hubzilla**
Otherwise referred to as "the network", Hubzilla is a collection of individual computers/servers (aka **hubs**) which connect together to form a larger cooperative network.


Looks to me like this definition is a bit outdated. Isn't Hubzilla set of web applications and services? The definition above should be named "grid"?
Andrew Manning
  
If this privacy policy page it to be kept at all, we can discard those definitions. We should maintain a single glossary such as /help/about/about#Glossary and link to that as necessary.
Thorsten
  
Glossary is on its way
Tech level documentation

Thorsten
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
Is there a short documentation or description of the different tech levels and there definition? What features are hidden for each level? If it is not to complicate I would also try to read the corresponding code but I need a small advice where to look?
Thorsten
  
Got it. That's exactly what I Was looking for. Thanks
Thorsten
  
An impressing list of features if you have them all in one place.
So "Custom/Expert Permissions" is a level foru feature. Are there also any level five features? I couldn't find one. Or is there a big level five feature in the pipeline? :-)
Mike Macgirvin
  
This space reserved.
what do you think about Solid?

paulfree14
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+
....yet another standart or set of standarts for federated networks. But that one started by Tim Berners-Lee.
Thought he has some credibility.
So I'm wondering what ppl here think about solid?

Solid (derived from "social linked data") is a proposed set of conventions and tools for building decentralized social applications based on Linked Data principles. Solid is modular and extensible and it relies as much as possible on existing W3C standards and protocols


https://solid.mit.edu/

But as they just have put on their landing-page: sponsord by mastercard, they kind of lost me already.



Image/photo

#solid #standarts
Not the Droid you are looking for
  
A little more history:

Firstly, The similarity between ActivityPub and SOLID is not superficial. They are both based on JSON-LD and ActivityPub even deliberately has a "solid-compatible" inbox endpoint. One or more of the editors of the ActivityPub spec have had involvement with SOLID at some level.

Secondly, Mike is right. It is vapourware. As in a smoking crater. You may be interested to hear how it got that way. The short version is that it depended very heavily on TLS Client certificates and the <keygen> element to have really easy account generation and secure portable identities. They did this through FOAF+SSL and then a few other iterations of pretty much the same thing. The <keygen> element had a few minor flaws in it that allowed and actually encouraged insecure implementations. There was a way to do it securely in most browsers using a nonce + curve challenge, and plenty of room to engineer other solutions to the problem. Instead of this, Google didn't want SOLID to take off so they dropped support then bullied the WHATWG into deprecating it "forcing" mozilla to do the same.

I forgot that MasterCard sponsored SOLID. I suspect they probably moved their sponsorship to DigitalBazaar by now (still JSON-LD but Now With More Blockchain). There's likely plenty of bankers involved in that one.

If you want to know some other conspiracies about decentralized protocols...

hold on there's someone at my door %!^~SFsj$NO CARRIER
Mike Macgirvin
  
Thanks for that.
paulfree14
  last edited: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 14:27:45 +0200  
bit more about relation and history.
(message copied from cwebber)

''@paulfree14 Tim Berners-Lee is definitely clued into ActivityPub and the work that the SocialWG has done.  He even attended a Social Working Group face to face.  Here's a photo of him standing with us: https://www.w3.org/wiki/File:2015-03-18-w3c-f2f.jpg

Tim Berners-Lee is dead center in the back, and I'm one down and to the left of him!''
How does a Hub delete content sent to a remote server from that remote server?

It's me
 
I'm curious, from the Hubzilla help page it says
The deletion process ensures that the content is deleted, regardless of whether it was posted on a channel's primary (home) hub, or on another hub, where the channel was remotely authenticated via Zot
. How does Hubzilla ensure your content gets deleted on a remote hub? Surely the administrator of the remote hub would be able to configure their Hub to not delete any recieved content? Does the source Hub 'delete' content it sends to remote hubs by rejecting any requests from any other channel to cryptographically confirm the validity of the 'deleted' content?
Andrew Manning
  
Even in Hubzilla, it seems that most of the time an item is just marked as deleted. The data is not actually removed from the database. Is there a "cleanup" script that truly removes most "deleted" items after some period?
Andrew Manning
  
Well, there is this in Expire.php:


// physically remove anything that has been deleted for more than two months
/** @FIXME - this is a wretchedly inefficient query */

$r = q("delete from item where item_pending_remove = 1 and changed < %s - INTERVAL %s",
    db_utcnow(), db_quoteinterval('36 DAY')
);
Mike Macgirvin
  
The deleted item often contains information about who it was delivered to. We need that information to send the deletion messages to all the right places (and they can be queued for a few days). We also provide updates in our feeds about these deleted items which can federate to things like drupal that imported our feed. So we need to provide time for all these delete messages and notifications to work their way through the system before we can physically remove the item from the database.

We also used to null out the message content when we deleted something, but this turned out to be a bad decision because the content can contain delivery instructions (such as forum tags). We need those delivery instructions to ensure the forum receives the message to delete the content (and forwards it appropriately).
Anmol Sharma
 
I can not connect to the diaspora channels. I get "Channel discovery failed".
Anmol Sharma
  
Yes my plugins are up to date.
Anmol Sharma
  
Ok, I deleted all the plugins and installed them again. Now I am able to connect to Diaspora channels.
Thanks
Andrew Manning
  
It never ceases to amuse me that 99% of all computer-related issues, hardware and software, are solved by some form of "turn it off and then back on again". :-)